some Jughead references:
- Jughead's Time Police was a series that began in 1990 featuring Jughead as a hero of the 29th century and a member of the Time Police, an organization that ensures history to remain the same for the future's sake. In this series, the beanie gives Jughead the ability to time travel by thinking. With his supervisor, Marshal January McAndrews, Jughead repairs disturbances in the past. Upon receiving a special beanie from an unknown benefactor, Jughead gains the ability to travel to the past and future at will. Joined by Deputy January McAndrews (Archie's descendant from the 29th century), Jughead travelled across history, ensuring that history stayed on its proper course. Paradoxes and existential dilemmas were often plot developments.
- Jughead has been depicted as disliking romance and the ways it leads young men to make fools of themselves. (Faraday confessing his love about Charlotte). In another story, he describes that the reason why he does not chase after girls is because of a childhood heartbreak. (Ben!)
-Another thread that has run through stories in recent years involves a psychic experience he is supposed to have had, caused by an odd pin he wears on his hat.
- his dog, Hot Dog, thinks like a human (Vincent)
- has unparalleled good luck.
-In other stories, Jughead has shown the following abilities: control weather (causing rain clouds to appear over his head), give the evil-eye (curse people with bad luck), learn the skills presented in any book he reads (including downhill skiing while reading a book - though the knowledge is lost when he reads a new book)and predict the future.
-Jughead is also a 19th century term for mule.
-Efran Zalonga- has to be an anagram for something!!
- why is desmond always on a boat?
- the birth of charlie (aww!) reminded me of how ben was born..
- when desmond tells charlie to look beyond where you can see, that's a reference to beyond the sea (shannon sang it). special island thought he'd never see it again. and tells him there are monsters on the island, in Scotland!
- locke's reference to the 30 caliber M1 rifle was a rifle used in the US military between the years 1942-1960. normal range for a gun was 50 yards prior to this gun's existence.
- 5 plays a BIG part of this episode (1950s H Bomb, could be 5 min or 5000 years, 5 years ago theresa & abigail's dad died, 50 years from now the island is still here, 1954 we are on the island, 1956 Locke is born) in numerology 5 means you are an explorer and adventurer who wants to experience all of life. Some of the following weaknesses, which are associated with the number 5, could slow down or even prevent your progress. But don't worry, it's very unlikely that all of the listed characteristics are part of your personality. It is difficult for you to commit to one relationship and you have difficulties to finish projects. You lack discipline and order, you are impatient, restless, easily distracted and you can be very impulsive.
- meaning of 5 in the bible-
- Father
- Son
- Spirit
- Creation
- Redemption
These are the five great mysteries, and five is therefore the number of GRACE.
If four is the number of the world, then it represents man's weakness, and helplessness, and vanity, as we have seen.
But four plus one (4+1=5) is significant of Divine strength added to and made perfect in that weakness; of omnipotence combined with the impotence of earth; of Divine favour uninfluenced and invincible. For more religious explanations on the number five (karen you'll check this out) go here: http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/5.html
- Latin- language of the enlightenment- it's also a dead language, a language that was wiped out. Today, Latin terminology is widely used, among other fields, in philosophy, medicine, biology, and law.
The Age of Enlightenment or The Enlightenment is a term used to describe a phase in Western philosophy and cultural life centered upon the eighteenth century, in which reason was advocated as the primary source and legitimacy for authority. Developing in Germany, France, Britain, the Netherlands, and Italy, the movement spread through much of Europe, including Russia and Scandinavia. The signatories of the American Declaration of Independence, the United States Bill of Rights and the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen were motivated by "Enlightenment" principles. This period is also known as the Age of Reason, although the English Bill of Rights predates the era by a century.
The intellectual and philosophical developments of that age (and their impact in moral, social, and political reform) aspired towards greater rights & liberties for common people based on self-governance, natural rights, natural law, central emphasis on liberty, individual rights, reason, common sense, and the principles of deism. These principles were a revolutionary departure from theocracy, autocracy, oligarchy, aristocracy, and the divine right of kings. The Enlightenment marks a principled departure from the Middle Ages, State & Church mandated oppression, toward an era of rational human discourse, freedom of religion, liberty, scientific advancement, and modernity.
- did the girl with the gun (ellie) who looked like the girl in the picture with farraday look pregnant? i believe this is eliose hawkings.. faraday's mother who is pregnant with faraday.
- not the first one poking around. rubbish left behind- i think this is someone else in addition to the obvious whidmore.
- abigail & theresa spencer.. who was their dad that died 5 years ago.. relative of whidmore? farraday? or a coverup. does whidmore have a twin? in the book "bad twin" by gary troup- the manuscript left on the island sawyer was reading.. a private investigator was hired to find the "bad twin" of fictious "Clifford Whidmore". Theresa- name of Ana Lucia's mom & Shannon & Boone's nanny. (boone also tells locke in his dream, Theresa falls up the stairs, Theresa falls down the stairs)
- sawyer calls this crazy town.. which reminds me of the episode titled eggtown or could be a reference to the mental institution.
- faraday says to bury it (bomb/nikki/paulo/the past)
- richard's eyes were completely black when locke is saying jacob sent him. he also said the leadership process starts at a young age.. richard won't have visited locke yet (locke has now time travelled back to 1954, locke born in 1956 and richard visits him a few years later) but a future locke tells richard to come visit him as a child which child Locke wouldn't know and Locke isn't remembering.
- who is controlling the time on the island that it keeps shifting. is it still changing from the frozen donkey wheel?
also here's a msg board posting from someone which i kind of agree with!
Jacob= God= Creator/ Overseer
Abaddon/Alpert/Locke/Etc (back through time)= Christ="Savior"
Linus/Widmore/etc= Devil= Antichrist= Destroyer
This is why Locke has to "die" to save everyone else.
The island is a metaphor for Mankind
This story is a remake of the Bible.
thanks to everyone for coming back to read & comment on schlost!
5 comments:
IT'S KA....
1ST- ALI, WONDERFUL!!!!
2ND- RICHARD DID INDEED APPEAR IN LOCKE'S "WORLD" WHEN HE WAS BORN....@ THE HOSPITAL!! FREAKY!
3RD- HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN SAYIN' RE-TELLING BIBLE STORY- WHOA-WHOA!
haven't read your whole posting but I had a thought... do you think the bomb is gets buried and the energy from that causes time travel? like a flux capacitor!!
though that doesn't explain jacob... hmmm
nice, ali.
love that widmore is (was) an other!
I think charlotte is dying cause she's getting 'erased' from time..
it's KA:
1st, Happy Year of the Ox to y'all!
Some thoughts on Mrs. Eloise Hawking:
-Faraday's rat was also named Eloise
-could be Penny's mother, Charles lover/ wife (on island known as "Ellie"
-could be Daniel's mother
-Ms. Hawking shares a few similarities to the characters Frank and Grandma Death in the movie Donnie Darko, including her observation that everyone dies. A similar line in Donnie Darko is "every living thing dies alone."
-noticed that Ms. Hawking was wearing a pin (when we 1st saw her), an ouroboros; a circular serpent with its tail in its mouth, representing life as a cycle. But this particular one wasn't eating its tail. hmmmm.
-the Ouroboros (Greek Ουροβόρος, from ουροβόρος όφις "tail-devouring snake", also spelled Uroboros in English pronounced /ʊˈrɒbɔrɔs/ or /ˌjʊəroʊˈbɒrəs/), is an ancient symbol depicting a serpent or dragon swallowing its own tail and forming a circle.
The living being had no need of eyes when there was nothing remaining outside him to be seen; nor of ears when there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he was created thus, his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form was assigned to him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.[2]
"Coiled dragon" forms have been attributed to the Hongshan culture (4700 BC to 2900 BC). One in particular, in the shape of a complete circle, was found on the chest of the deceased.[3]
The notion of a serpent or dragon eating its own tail can be traced back to Ancient Egypt, circa 1600 BC. From ancient Egypt it passed to Phoenicia and then to the Greek philosophers, who gave it the name Ouroboros ("tail-devourer").
In Gnosticism, this serpent symbolized eternity and the soul of the world.
-Canadian progressive rock band Rush used a depiction of a snake eating its tail on various album artwork for their 2007 album Snakes and Arrows. (alot of shooting of arrows going on, huh?)
-In Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World, in an episode entitled "The Secret", it is revealed that Marguerite Krux came to the plateau in search of the other half of a medallion, the Ouroboros, which she needed to trade with a criminal called Shanghai Xan, who in return was to give her her birth certificate so she could learn her true identity.
-Garet Garrett's book, "Ouroboros" or The Mechanical Extension of Mankind deals with the cycle of humanity
-The comic series Bone by Jeff Smith, has the dragon queen Mim being an Ouroboros that kept the world in balance until being possessed by the evil spirit, the Lord of the Locusts, a catastrophe that led to the creation of the valley the series is set in.
-Plato described a self-eating, circular being as the first living thing in the universe—an immortal, perfectly constructed animal.
-She pointed out red shoes due who wound up dead- to Brutha: In The Sixth Sense, the color red appears when a "dead person" is on screen. (i think people on island who are gonna die wear red.....)
- In Stir of Echoes, the color red appears to warn the main character, Tom, that his young son is in danger.
- In the film Sin City, the color red is also significant and appears when a character is going to die.
In a foreshadowing of his own death, Locke and Boone have a conversation about redshirts from Star Trek, a type of stock character doomed to die to promote the progression of the storyline.
BOONE: Red shirt.
LOCKE: Huh?
BOONE: Ever watch Star Trek?
LOCKE: Nah, not really.
BOONE: The crew guys that would go down to the planet with the main guys, the captain and the guy with the pointy ears, they always wore red shirts. And they always got killed.
LOCKE: Sounds like a piss-poor captain.
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